Watching war documentaries is a hobby of mine
I am a pacifist I think every war is a useless and disastrous venture .
WWI and WWII both of which achieved nothing more than wanton destruction and the unstoppable ascendancy of Germany and Japan on the world stage.
The pointless Vietnam war which put untold number of people through terrible suffering only to have the American Presidents and the Vietnamese ruling Junta toasting and the,poor public providing cheap clothing to Walmart buyers.
The ongoing Iraq and Afghan wars which prove once again that trying to grow western ideology in places where it is not welcome or wanted is a foolish and pointless affair.
we are left with a new monster in the form of ISIS and a resurgent Taliban waiting for the next US president "PREZT" to pull out american troops and their eventual return to power.
For a country which calls it the world's sole superpower, the blunders committed by US military is something even an uneducated Pashtun tribal will not commit.
this is from a report on the assault on Grenada which was like a rhino stomping on an ant.
JSOC had little time for mission coordination or discussing task responsibilities with the conventional forces. There was no set of common communications-electronics operating instructions between JSOC elements and the other players, which would prove disastrous. Neither were there coordinated communications instructions between the forces afloat and the XVIII Airborne.
On Oct. 24, the Navy and Marines requested that the operation be postponed until about 8 a.m., so that they’d have enough daylight to successfully navigate the shoals. Despite JSOC objections, the postponement was granted, forcing the Rangers to conduct a daylight jump of the heavily defended Point Salines airfield. In the early morning hours of Oct. 25, elements of SEAL Team Six were dropped over the horizon by Air Force Special Operations Forces (SOF) aircraft. They were heavily loaded and, in an unexpectedly heavy sea, drowned. The Marines successfully landed north of Grand Anse but were held up by a combination of narrow roads and light opposition. They occupied Pearls Airport on the main island and the northern island of Carriacou. Elsewhere, results were mixed.
The night SEAL insertion to rescue Scoon initially succeeded, but Grenadian forces reacted by surrounding the house where he had been held. The Marines were unable to effect a linkup, and the SEALs used the now-(in)famous act of calling JSOC at Fort Bragg through an AT&T landline and directing the AC-130s to keep the attackers at bay.
This was exacerbated by the artillery unit stationed at the southeastern side of the runway, which forced planes to divert whenever there was firing. As a result, the best turnaround times for landing were in excess of 45 minutes per plane. Over the next two days, 82nd troops and Corps support elements trickled in one plane at a time. The inability to rapidly land aircraft forced the Air Force to scatter planes throughout the region to refuel and await landing times. Consequently, most units landed piecemeal, intermixed and well behind schedule. Elsewhere, poor communication and inadequate planning created significant issues.
The inability of the TF-160 pilots to talk to the Navy ships resulted in casualties. TF-160s wanted to fly the wounded directly to naval ships offshore as the best, most expedient way. However, when they approached the forces afloat, there was no ship-to-helo communication, and the Navy waved them off. In frustration, a TF-160 pilot with casualties aboard landed on the helo deck of one ship anyway, despite the crew’s efforts to stop him
The 82nd discovered a second campus at Blue Anse and secured its students. ( Wah re Wah! what great intelligence gathering )
Nearly every small unit had the same story. They arrived in a populated area via helo or truck (units acquired portions of a large Soviet vehicle park) and were warmly greeted as saviors by the local people. They offered food, water and shelter. Very quickly, locals pointed out the thugs, who were detained and flown to the rear for further interrogation and incarceration. This continued until all population centers had been screened and occupied by forces ranging from a squad to a battalion command post. ( imagine what would have happened if the local population were not against the ruling gang or were ideologically well indoctrinated ?)
However, a number of countries, including Great Britain, were voicing objection in the aftermath of the invasion. Protest speeches were made at the United Nations, and anti-U.S. demonstrations occurred in several foreign cities. The Grenadians, meanwhile, had a completely opposite perspective on the U.S. intervention. ( Americans are so full of themselves, that they can not even understand, whythere were protests. After all they are the good guys is it not ?)
The invasion’s success, reinforced by low casualties and Grenadian gratitude that even the media couldn’t ignore, was a rare moment of good news for the U.S. military at that point of the 1980s. The various glitches and issues that arose as part of the invasion were addressed and resolved, though not without controversy.
For many, it was an important introduction into the symbolism of the U.S. flag’s meaning to others, as well as to themselves. ( they fail to mention what the symbolism means to a Muslim in the middle east or Afghanistan )
One of my soldiers was killed by an accidental weapons discharge. He was the only child of Indian parents, a doctor and a nurse, who immigrated to the United States. I wrote a letter of condolence to them that was quickly answered. The parents said it was a privilege to have him as their son and a greater privilege to pay back the nation that gave them so much. While they suffered a tragic loss, it was for a great cause, and they would always remember that he was part of something larger than himself. ( PREZ T would have made another supposedly funny comment when he heard this )
As A Company moved past the burning buildings and dead bodies, ammunition cooked off like popcorn popping. As they passed by the Cuban bodies the paratroopers shot them several times to make sure they were dead. Due to this every body had multiple wounds. Inside the buildings were cases of weapons and ammunition. All of the paratroopers who were only armed with a .45 pistol snatched up AK-47s and used them until the end of the invasion. There were also cases of sardines that the paratroopers filled their pockets with, and Cuban cigars that were stuffed into rucksacks. Every man grabbed a handful of Soviet grenades and hooked them to their LCEs.
On 25 October, Navy A-7 Corsairs mistakenly bombed a mental hospital near the Grenadian command post at Fort Frederick.
This time, the Corsairs attacked a brigade 5 headquarters of the 82d Airborne Division, wounding seventeen soldiers, three seriously.12 ( the oxymoron friendly fire /self goal)
Trobaugh’s troops also had to guard and care for Cuban prisoners and Soviet refugees. ( they did not want to say they were in war with the soviet union )
Navy ships within sight of Rangers and airborne troops could not initially receive or respond to their requests for fire support. On two occasions, when Navy jets did respond, they attacked the wrong targets. ( may they would have been better off using smoke signals )
URGENT FURY cost US forces 19 killed and 116 wounded; Cuban forces lost 25 killed, 59 wounded and 638 captured. Grenadian forces suffered 45 killed and 358 wounded; at least 24 Grenadian civilians were killed.
I am a pacifist I think every war is a useless and disastrous venture .
WWI and WWII both of which achieved nothing more than wanton destruction and the unstoppable ascendancy of Germany and Japan on the world stage.
The pointless Vietnam war which put untold number of people through terrible suffering only to have the American Presidents and the Vietnamese ruling Junta toasting and the,poor public providing cheap clothing to Walmart buyers.
The ongoing Iraq and Afghan wars which prove once again that trying to grow western ideology in places where it is not welcome or wanted is a foolish and pointless affair.
we are left with a new monster in the form of ISIS and a resurgent Taliban waiting for the next US president "PREZT" to pull out american troops and their eventual return to power.
For a country which calls it the world's sole superpower, the blunders committed by US military is something even an uneducated Pashtun tribal will not commit.
this is from a report on the assault on Grenada which was like a rhino stomping on an ant.
JSOC had little time for mission coordination or discussing task responsibilities with the conventional forces. There was no set of common communications-electronics operating instructions between JSOC elements and the other players, which would prove disastrous. Neither were there coordinated communications instructions between the forces afloat and the XVIII Airborne.
On Oct. 24, the Navy and Marines requested that the operation be postponed until about 8 a.m., so that they’d have enough daylight to successfully navigate the shoals. Despite JSOC objections, the postponement was granted, forcing the Rangers to conduct a daylight jump of the heavily defended Point Salines airfield. In the early morning hours of Oct. 25, elements of SEAL Team Six were dropped over the horizon by Air Force Special Operations Forces (SOF) aircraft. They were heavily loaded and, in an unexpectedly heavy sea, drowned. The Marines successfully landed north of Grand Anse but were held up by a combination of narrow roads and light opposition. They occupied Pearls Airport on the main island and the northern island of Carriacou. Elsewhere, results were mixed.
The night SEAL insertion to rescue Scoon initially succeeded, but Grenadian forces reacted by surrounding the house where he had been held. The Marines were unable to effect a linkup, and the SEALs used the now-(in)famous act of calling JSOC at Fort Bragg through an AT&T landline and directing the AC-130s to keep the attackers at bay.
This was exacerbated by the artillery unit stationed at the southeastern side of the runway, which forced planes to divert whenever there was firing. As a result, the best turnaround times for landing were in excess of 45 minutes per plane. Over the next two days, 82nd troops and Corps support elements trickled in one plane at a time. The inability to rapidly land aircraft forced the Air Force to scatter planes throughout the region to refuel and await landing times. Consequently, most units landed piecemeal, intermixed and well behind schedule. Elsewhere, poor communication and inadequate planning created significant issues.
The inability of the TF-160 pilots to talk to the Navy ships resulted in casualties. TF-160s wanted to fly the wounded directly to naval ships offshore as the best, most expedient way. However, when they approached the forces afloat, there was no ship-to-helo communication, and the Navy waved them off. In frustration, a TF-160 pilot with casualties aboard landed on the helo deck of one ship anyway, despite the crew’s efforts to stop him
The 82nd discovered a second campus at Blue Anse and secured its students. ( Wah re Wah! what great intelligence gathering )
Nearly every small unit had the same story. They arrived in a populated area via helo or truck (units acquired portions of a large Soviet vehicle park) and were warmly greeted as saviors by the local people. They offered food, water and shelter. Very quickly, locals pointed out the thugs, who were detained and flown to the rear for further interrogation and incarceration. This continued until all population centers had been screened and occupied by forces ranging from a squad to a battalion command post. ( imagine what would have happened if the local population were not against the ruling gang or were ideologically well indoctrinated ?)
However, a number of countries, including Great Britain, were voicing objection in the aftermath of the invasion. Protest speeches were made at the United Nations, and anti-U.S. demonstrations occurred in several foreign cities. The Grenadians, meanwhile, had a completely opposite perspective on the U.S. intervention. ( Americans are so full of themselves, that they can not even understand, whythere were protests. After all they are the good guys is it not ?)
The invasion’s success, reinforced by low casualties and Grenadian gratitude that even the media couldn’t ignore, was a rare moment of good news for the U.S. military at that point of the 1980s. The various glitches and issues that arose as part of the invasion were addressed and resolved, though not without controversy.
For many, it was an important introduction into the symbolism of the U.S. flag’s meaning to others, as well as to themselves. ( they fail to mention what the symbolism means to a Muslim in the middle east or Afghanistan )
One of my soldiers was killed by an accidental weapons discharge. He was the only child of Indian parents, a doctor and a nurse, who immigrated to the United States. I wrote a letter of condolence to them that was quickly answered. The parents said it was a privilege to have him as their son and a greater privilege to pay back the nation that gave them so much. While they suffered a tragic loss, it was for a great cause, and they would always remember that he was part of something larger than himself. ( PREZ T would have made another supposedly funny comment when he heard this )
As A Company moved past the burning buildings and dead bodies, ammunition cooked off like popcorn popping. As they passed by the Cuban bodies the paratroopers shot them several times to make sure they were dead. Due to this every body had multiple wounds. Inside the buildings were cases of weapons and ammunition. All of the paratroopers who were only armed with a .45 pistol snatched up AK-47s and used them until the end of the invasion. There were also cases of sardines that the paratroopers filled their pockets with, and Cuban cigars that were stuffed into rucksacks. Every man grabbed a handful of Soviet grenades and hooked them to their LCEs.
On 25 October, Navy A-7 Corsairs mistakenly bombed a mental hospital near the Grenadian command post at Fort Frederick.
This time, the Corsairs attacked a brigade 5 headquarters of the 82d Airborne Division, wounding seventeen soldiers, three seriously.12 ( the oxymoron friendly fire /self goal)
Trobaugh’s troops also had to guard and care for Cuban prisoners and Soviet refugees. ( they did not want to say they were in war with the soviet union )
Navy ships within sight of Rangers and airborne troops could not initially receive or respond to their requests for fire support. On two occasions, when Navy jets did respond, they attacked the wrong targets. ( may they would have been better off using smoke signals )
URGENT FURY cost US forces 19 killed and 116 wounded; Cuban forces lost 25 killed, 59 wounded and 638 captured. Grenadian forces suffered 45 killed and 358 wounded; at least 24 Grenadian civilians were killed.
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